How Thaksin Bought Power - 2001 Documentary Abc Australia

[JaiRai]

A few months shy of 14 years old and pretty damn interesting.

 

(note: it IS possible to not support Thaksin or the junta, you don't have to be one or the other)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-KEwNQMQrw&list=WL&index=13

[Flashermac]

"A few months shy of 14 years old and pretty damn interesting."

 

That's jail bait!

 

 

p.s. When the T-man was first running for PM, I asked my students how they were voting. About 2/3rd said they'd vote for Takky. The reason? "We've tried everyone else, so we may as well try him." The other 1/3rd said he was a blow-hard who did very little as a deputy PM and they just plain didn't trust him. Looks like the 1/3rd was right.

[YimSiam]

I'll bite - was the other third right? If so, one would expect that the prior 2/3rds would have changed their mind after a round... or two... of elections, and stopped voting for the 'new' option. But that didn't happen - people kept voting for the 'what the hell, I'll try him' option, years after they first 'tried'. They tried, they liked, they voted again... and again... and even for his sister! You're a professorial type - what's your logic to saying that 'he's a blow-hard', when he's has been repeated chosen whenever people have a chance - no matter what untrustworthy stuff he's done, as well. The logic I see is: "if the military has to step in to remove you and your family, despite the will of the people, you must be some kind of blow-hard". Doesn't stick, Teach...

 

YimSiam

[limbo]

I'll bite - was the other third right? If so, one would expect that the prior 2/3rds would have changed their mind after a round... or two... of elections, and stopped voting for the 'new' option. But that didn't happen - people kept voting for the 'what the hell, I'll try him' option, years after they first 'tried'. They tried, they liked, they voted again... and again... and even for his sister! You're a professorial type - what's your logic to saying that 'he's a blow-hard', when he's has been repeated chosen whenever people have a chance - no matter what untrustworthy stuff he's done, as well. The logic I see is: "if the military has to step in to remove you and your family, despite the will of the people, you must be some kind of blow-hard". Doesn't stick, Teach...

 

YimSiam

 

Vote buying, populist (and broken) promises just to name a few

[Flashermac]

I'll bite - was the other third right? If so, one would expect that the prior 2/3rds would have changed their mind after a round... or two... of elections, and stopped voting for the 'new' option. But that didn't happen - people kept voting for the 'what the hell, I'll try him' option, years after they first 'tried'. They tried, they liked, they voted again... and again... and even for his sister! You're a professorial type - what's your logic to saying that 'he's a blow-hard', when he's has been repeated chosen whenever people have a chance - no matter what untrustworthy stuff he's done, as well. The logic I see is: "if the military has to step in to remove you and your family, despite the will of the people, you must be some kind of blow-hard". Doesn't stick, Teach...

 

YimSiam

 

 

Ummm ... I suspect most of the 2/3rds of my university students did change their minds. And the "blow-hard" label was my students'. Try reading more carefully and don't let your own prejudices get in the way.

[My Penis is hungry]

All sides have been convicted of vote buying, weird thing about vote buying is it doesn't even cover the cost of going home on a bus and voting!

 

Populist policies? Gee what percentage of global politicians are elected for not doing that?

 

He did some smart things, roads got built that didn't dissolve when it rained, he put a lot of money at the bottom so it trickled up.

 

Mistakes, too many to mention, he should have provided equal attention to the South as he did to the North East, drug policy, etc

[Flashermac]

Takky openly stated that he would do nothing for people who hadn't voted for him (i.e. the South). If he'd been as smart as he thought he was, he'd have worked hard to get those voters to support him too. Instead, he made them into lifelong enemies.

[My Penis is hungry]

Obviously I agree, but also he's the first one to bring paved roads, constant electricity, education past grade 6 to many people, who will thank him for a long time.

 

Many many mistakes as I said, but also some good points

[Coss]

In this "but he did good things too" argument, it is worth remembering that the majority of politicians in most western democracies, do a lot of good things and do so for a salary (often a good salary).

 

They very rarely make themselves and their ilk, billionaires in the process.

[Coss]

A prime example of someone who was in the job for public service, was NZ's Norman Kirk, who entered and left the top job in NZ as a humble, ordinary bloke.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Kirk