Farang, insult or not?
Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:18
"They mention the use of the word, farang, as coming into use when the French were still in the area and the word was used to denote a French person and later on, westerns."
I am fairly certain that this theory has been rebuked already.
Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:21
Shake for me girl
I wannna be be your backdoor man
Posted 13 February 2007 - 08:34
Yes, it's actually in the article.
Posted 16 April 2007 - 17:30
Posted 07 August 2007 - 23:59
I believe the "mak sii daa" thing started in Isaan as a kind of joke/code..."mak sii daa" being Lao for "farang" (the fruit).
the joke is that while "farang," the word for the fruit (guava) also is used to mean "white foreigner," "mak sii daa" originally had no such connotation in Lao, it *only* meant "guava"...though it arguably does have the double meaning now. and it's caught on with Central Thais, who often like to ape Isaan (Lao) speech to sound "cool" much the way that African American dialect or Ebonics is mimicked by whites in the US and elsewhere.
the "code" part is because while probably a majority of farangs know the word "farang" has a double meaning, not as many know about "mak sii daa," though that is most likely changing.
Posted 08 August 2007 - 05:12
With Thai friends, I was not enthused about always being referred to a the 'farang'.
With my ex-GF, who I am still good friends with, is now married to a Thai and has a young daughter. I've always been welcomed by the family and their relatives...but still referred to as the 'farang'.
One day I was chatting with my Ex and intentionally mentioned that she was 'Khun Asian'. She said 'no', I'm a Thai. I explained that, yes, and I am not just a farang...but also am from a country...I am an 'American'. She understood what I was trying to point out about the word 'farang'. Now she avoids the 'farang' word (at least in my presence) and has her husband and daughter address me as 'loong Jay' (uncle Jay). I kinda like that!
Posted 08 August 2007 - 10:31
The "makseeda" joke was probably started by the BGs in Isaan during the USAF base days in the VN War. I know I never heard it used for a Farang in the 1970s.
As to Farang being an insult, I'm not sure. But I'd hardly consider it a compliment. Sort of like being called whitey or Chuck by an African-American. I reduces all individuals to their skin colour alone, in which case it's not a lot different from the N-word.
p.s. And when I was a kid I didn't know the N-word was insulting. I just thought that's what people sometimes called black folks! It seemed sort of a low class term to use though.
Posted 08 August 2007 - 13:06
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